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Nov 2015

What KPI’s do Sales Managers need to Track?

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Key Performance Indicators aren't new, but for many sales managers KPI's aren't defined, tracked or used as pointers to help them manage salespeople. Maybe it is the lack of easy to use tools to track KPIs.  Maybe it is the sales manager's inability to understand how they can use KPIs to look at the past and predict the future;  regardless, the excuses aren't valid anymore. In this interview with Pipeliner CEO Nikoluas Kimla and John Golden, Chief Strategy officer for Pipeliner, they discuss the five KPIs that every sales manager should use to understand how to coach their teams to extraordinary success. The host is SLMA's Jim Obermayer.

About Nikolaus Kimla

Nikolaus is a true entrepreneur: over the last 40 years he has created six businesses, three of which are still going strong today. His experience in the software industry goes back over 20 years to his founding of uptime ITechnology. Through his work at uptime he learned software development from the ground up and, as noted above, the company has been a resounding success.

Following the project of World Check (World Check was acquired by Thomson Reuters 2011), which uptime has completed developed and overseen the IT for more than 10 years and still working today on it, Nikolaus' attention turned to sales—for he felt that salespeople were seriously undervalued and unsupported in today's business world.

Thus began the 8-year journey that ultimately resulted in Pipeliner CRM—a unique solution that actually empowers salespeople to sell instead of burdening them with cumbersome administrative duties as traditional CRM solutions have.

"Technology is nothing. What's important is that you have a faith in people, that they're basically good and smart, and if you give them tools, they'll do wonderful things with them."

About John Golden

John Golden, Chief Strategy Officer (CSO) with Pipeliner is the best selling author of two books "Social Upheaval: How to Win @ Social Selling" & "Winning the Battle for Sales". An acknowledged thought leader and speaker on sales and business strategy, he is the former CEO of Huthwaite(SPIN Selling) and Omega Performance, both global consulting companies and Focused Revenue Results, a management consultancy group.

Role at Pipeliner

Provides strategic direction to Pipeliner sales to increase market penetration through effective direct and channel sales strategies while ensuring that the organization is aligned with its target buyers, and that the platform continues to deliver optimum value to sales people, sales managers and business executives.

This episode is generously sponsored by The Vanella Group
The Vanella Group, Inc. is the only firm that delivers telebased lead generation programs exclusively for enterprise technology providers. They achieve results 5 times higher than industry standards for outbound lead generation based on the research published by implementing their unique Telesales 2.0 methodology. We are an award winning leader in this space and get results like no other firms.The Vanella Group supports firms from Fortune 500 companies to startups.To learn more, visit or call 888-335-0340

and by Validar
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Sep 2015

CRM’s Shouldn’t be the Leaders in Technology.


250-SLMARADIO-peterson-goldminer.jpgOur guest is GoldMine Vice President, Paul Petersen. We were talking about technology iOS systems and not wanting to be the pioneer in these technologies, but to be able to respond properly and to have your product evolve to meet needs that are continuously evolving monthly; it seems like that they change and very rapidly.

Paul Petersen cited: 

We have people ask us, 

“What do you have this function?" "No we don't." 
We ask, "Do you use it?" 

"Well no." 
"Have you thought about how you would use it?" "No." Or, "Then why is it 

Highlights include:

CRMs and why there are so stinking many of them!
Unlike accounting which is a pretty stable environment once you get your network going and how you want your invoices to look and things like that, you can turn that out for years in some cases without having to do much. But when you look at CRM it is a very evolving workspace. So CRM right? Customer relationship management is a bit of a misnomer because you are including customers, prospective customers, prospects.
It turns into a lead management; it becomes this combination all-encompassing tool.
CRM is all those places that connect all the muscles, connect the brain, nerve reaction so yeah lead processing which in all marketing you've got the sales department then you have customer service which can be run integrated or standalone and of course management wants to know what's happening.
Which is CRM is the best for you, whether it's a proprietary one or some overall layer that knows how to play nicely with other systems?
When you get to areas like finance or your general marketing and sales, people have tried to integrate things but are finding that day, if I have an integrated accounting pick it's got CRM. The CRM doesn't do such a great job after all or they focus on the wrong things – integration. I am spending a lot of money to create a record and accounting systems when I may be only do that 10 times a month right? So is that really a high-value area or it just creates a lot of technical complexity?
I don't think… CRM's shouldn't be the leaders in technology. 
What they need to do is accommodate the most common technology and we are commonly going through things and saying… So for example we missed the quickness with which Android was becoming adopted. We looked at it, it was kind of a fragmented marketplace. We had iOS solutions smart phones, 98% of the market, it seemed like a no-brainer. Within six months of releasing the product, android had sorted that out primarily through Samsung driving it. They got one version of the operating system and they had some major carriers now carrying the devices and it was kind of a "Whoops!" So we did get there but we tend not to like to be the first in the market.
You'll have to listen to the replay for the full conversation.
This episode is generously sponsored by The Vanella Group
The Vanella Group, Inc. is the only firm that delivers telebased lead generation programs exclusively for enterprise technology providers. They achieve results 5 times higher than industry standards for outbound lead generation based on the research published by implementing their unique Telesales 2.0 methodology. We are an award winning leader in this space and get results like no other firms. The Vanella Group supports firms from Fortune 500 companies to startups.  To learn more, visit or call 888-335-0340
Aug 2015

How to Avoid the 3 Reasons for CRM Failure!


There seems to be as many discussions about CRM failure as there are about CRM successes. A research report from Merkle Inc., in DM News said that 63% of the CRM Initiatives Fail. And yet there are roadmaps to avoid failure and experienced people can tell us how it’s done right the first time.  In our show this week, Traci Whetzel the Director of CRM at Concept Services outlines how to avoid CRM failure. The host is Jim Obermayer.

About Traci Whetzel

Traci Whetzel, Director – CRM, began her career with Concept Services as a BDM, and during her tenure she has held a multitude of roles within the organization. Traci is a strategic and process driven manager with a passion for sales process design, results, CRM and all things technical.
Traci has over a decade of experience working with and implementing various CRM solutions. She is an inspiring person to work with on both a personal and professional level because of her knowledge, optimism and “can-do” attitude. Traci is a great representation of our company’s spirit of an optimal blend of hard work and fun, which she displays on a daily basis to her employees and customers.
Core Expertise
Process Design
Lead Generation and Management
Marketing Automation
Sales Management
The University of Akron
Certified Administrator

About Concept Services

Concept Services is a growing company of over 80 employees that is looking to add talented and professional individuals to our team. We work with companies across the United States, Canada and Europe providing them with new business opportunities. We are strategically located between Cleveland and Canton for the purpose of attracting, acquiring and developing the best talent possible.
Concept Services is primarily a New Business Development/Lead Management group. We work directly with our client’s sales force and provide them with an integrated solution for managing the front-end part of the sales process. Our services include prospecting, cold-calling, managing and qualifying inbound leads from your website or phone, customer care surveys and more, all for the purpose of uncovering new business opportunities.
We also offer services for Driver Recruitment, CRM Development & Implementation and others. In addition, Concept Services has a dedicated CRM Division that is a Certified Implementation Partner, which assists companies with the design, implementation and management of their instance.   Ph: 330-336-2571

This episode of SLMA Radio is generously sponsored by:
The Vanella Group  The only firm that delivers tele-based lead generation programs exclusively for enterprise technology providers.  and  Direct Marketing Partners.  A leading service provider specializing in sales lead management